Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Post by Tom » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:51 pm

Perfect colour for the Cabriolet! PE looks great, waiting for it all to come together...

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Post by LUW » Sun Nov 19, 2017 8:18 am

What Tom said :)
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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:10 pm

Tom wrote:
Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:51 pm
Perfect colour for the Cabriolet! PE looks great, waiting for it all to come together...
Thanks for your approval, so the Convertible will get a fresh and cool yellow! Today I've tried to sort out most of the parts and get the whole project "cleaned up". So I really hope to show some real progress from day to day from now on... :)
LUW wrote:
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What Tom said :)
Right said Fred... ahem, Tom :D ! I'm looking forward now to the clear lacquer for the Convertible and how the yellow will then look like. It's always hard to make the choice for a certain colour, but meanwhile I become more courageous regarding the colours. So put on your sunglasses for the following photos showing the interior for the convertible :mrgreen: :

ImageSecond (and last) layer of matte yellow

ImageA strong green for the interior

ImageThe persenning

ImageAnother layer of glossy black

ImageA light silver gray for the interior of the Coupé

ImageProfile rings for the tires and pedalries painted semi-matte black

ImageThe louvers for the Coupé are a kind of fantasy, as on the (only) blurry photo of the car it is hardly to recognize how these parts did look like. They seem to have had a special design, at least I found no other Packard of that time with louvers which show resemblance to the ones on the photo... :)

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Post by Tom » Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:53 pm

Yellow and green... hmmm, distinctive and bold.

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Post by Jean B. » Mon Nov 20, 2017 12:53 pm

Tom wrote:
Sun Nov 19, 2017 1:53 pm
Yellow and green... hmmm, distinctive and bold.
...and referring to the vintage ad, showing the car in this livery :) . Well, I had the fantasy of a Hollywood star, cruising along a seaside boulevard in early summertime, the scent of oranges in the air *sigh*... :D

Going ahead! After a third (and last) coating with matte yellow (light colours always cover the primer very badly...), the first thin layer of clear lacquer was applied. Now the body can be handled without too much danger regarding stains and fingerprints:

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The Coupé is now polished, chrome parts around the headlights are scratched through, first retouches were made:

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And another tiny gimmick, the licence plates:

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Post by Tom » Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:10 pm

Nice, you're making good progress here! I'm sure the black one will look great, so I'm looking forward to seeing the yellow one near completion.

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Post by Jean B. » Wed Nov 22, 2017 12:18 pm

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Mon Nov 20, 2017 1:10 pm
Nice, you're making good progress here! I'm sure the black one will look great, so I'm looking forward to seeing the yellow one near completion.
Two steps forward, one step back :evil: ! Completion of the yellow one will take some further time... After having applied the first coating with clear lacqer, I examined the body carefully under the magnifying glass, and I was very unhappy :( . I made several mistakes, beginning with a grey primer, although a white primer is necessary for light colours. The yellow paint based on white matte paint from Humbrol, but this type has too much filling pigments in it which make the colour very rough when dried. This leads to stains and dirt only when watching the car :? . Once more I made a cut and stripped it again. As I'm busy with some other things at the moment, I could today only apply the first new - white! - primer:

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Post by Tom » Wed Nov 22, 2017 2:48 pm

Yes, yellow paint is really transparent.

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Post by gilma » Wed Nov 22, 2017 4:31 pm

Great progress Jean, always a pleasure to see the new colors, and that green is bold - very interesting to see it in the car 8-)
There are so many parts, and I think it pays off and adds a lot to the final result.

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Post by Jean B. » Thu Nov 23, 2017 11:45 am

Tom wrote:
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Yes, yellow paint is really transparent.
... and I knew that before :roll: ! Interesting thing to make something of which you know that it wouldn't work. What would Dr. Freud say? :mrgreen:
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Great progress Jean, always a pleasure to see the new colors, and that green is bold - very interesting to see it in the car 8-) There are so many parts, and I think it pays off and adds a lot to the final result.
Hope to get to the final result before X-mas! And meanwhile I'm quite sure to change the green as well, to get closer to the vintage ad (shown at the beginning of this topic), but that's no big matter :)

At least the body has its good shape again, and it is now bright white and ready for new painting:

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Now I'm going to airbrush with gloss enamel paint, and as there is a different colour range compared to the matte paints, I'll have to mix a new shade of yellow. This time it should get a little bit lighter:

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Tomorrow we will see the first layer of paint on the car :P

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Post by Jean B. » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:38 pm

And now I've got the perfect yellow for the car (this time with gloss finish), here with its first coating:

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The persenning with flat mat overspray by AlClad2:

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...of course with small rivets:

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Wheels are ready now:

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The green interior also got a new shade, a littel bit "lighter & softer":

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Post by Tom » Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:57 pm

Much better on the yellow/green combo. Excellent in every single detail.

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Post by LUW » Sun Nov 26, 2017 6:02 am

Yep, that color combo will look great on it.
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Post by Jager » Sun Nov 26, 2017 7:43 am

Love the wheels Jean...looking forward to seeing these with the black Coupe Parisenne.
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Post by Jean B. » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:28 pm

Tom wrote:
Sat Nov 25, 2017 1:57 pm
Much better on the yellow/green combo. Excellent in every single detail.
Thank you :P . Sometimes it needs a second start, I guess. And although I always thought I'd had an artist's talent, I meanwhile experienced how difficult it is to mix a colour! This time it was quite difficult to get a light and cool yellow, this was achieved by mixing some drops of a light green into the yellow.
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Yep, that color combo will look great on it.
The lighter green for the interior looks quite good! Interesting that any colour applied on the car looks much darker and more intensive than a simple test on a cardboard :)
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Love the wheels Jean...looking forward to seeing these with the black Coupe Parisenne.
Me, too! I'm looking forward that this combination will look "straight & elegant"... :D

Much to do, and unfortunately only few time to work on the Packards... :( Here's a picture under daylight with the first dry coating of the new yellow:

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...and here's the second coating. Let's hope that the paint is already thick enough to get to sanding and polishing (when it's completely hardened):

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And here's a first example for the side mirror and the p/e hood ornament:

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Post by Tom » Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:39 pm

:o Those last two are incredible works of miniature art!
Model manufacturers never use the actual shade of paint used on the 1:1, because it always turns out darker on the model. The yellow now looks like it belongs on the car, excellent mix.

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Post by LUW » Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:53 pm

How in heavens did you make that swan?!? :shock:
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Post by Jager » Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 pm

LUW wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:53 pm
How in heavens did you make that swan?!? :shock:
Fantastic work
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Post by reeft1 » Tue Nov 28, 2017 5:52 pm

Jager wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 6:08 pm
LUW wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 5:53 pm
How in heavens did you make that swan?!? :shock:
Fantastic work
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Post by Jean B. » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:15 pm

Tom wrote:
Mon Nov 27, 2017 1:39 pm
:o Those last two are incredible works of miniature art! Model manufacturers never use the actual shade of paint used on the 1:1, because it always turns out darker on the model. The yellow now looks like it belongs on the car, excellent mix.
I'll have that in mind for the future, thanks for the hint! :P
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How in heavens did you make that swan?!? :shock:
Jager wrote:
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Fantastic work
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:shock:
Thank you so much, but really: to make such a swan or generally that kind of mascot is rather easy, compared to other challenges... :) May I show you, how to do it? First choose a photo, showing the profile and details:

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Then designing the rough shape. Choosing a transparent fond, this is with InkScape (or another graphic programme) quite easy:

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Now modelling the contures, adding some details (if necessary), examining if all parts have measurements that can be photo-etched (lines and gaps should have 0.25mm width at least):

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Making a front and a reverse side, etching it two times (mirrored), and then glueing the parts together, afterwards spreading the wings carefully, and that's all :P

Main work for today was sanding and polishing the yellow Packard. Not so easy as I've thought, as the light colour gets very dirty while polishing, and when cleaning the car, the shine is slightly fading. But I think I'll leave it this way, looks quite nice:

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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Post by Tom » Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:33 pm

Thanks for the tutorial, still very impressive.
The yellow looks ace. Might turn out to be hard to pick a favourite this time!

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Post by LUW » Wed Nov 29, 2017 7:15 pm

"Quite" easy for you :D
I would have ended up with a Yucky.
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Post by Jager » Thu Nov 30, 2017 10:13 am

You make the mascot sound easy Jean, but I wonder how much time you spent doing it. I could see you spending several hours just to get this little detail right.
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Re: Packard Darrin Convertible and Coupé Parisienne by Western Models

Post by Jean B. » Thu Nov 30, 2017 1:27 pm

Tom wrote:
Wed Nov 29, 2017 1:33 pm
Thanks for the tutorial, still very impressive.The yellow looks ace. Might turn out to be hard to pick a favourite this time!
Meanwhile I try to make different tiny parts in "3D". If you combine and bend two or three p/e parts, you can indeed make parts which look like casted or moulded ones. And it's fun to make two cars of the same type, although this is - of course - not everytime the case... :)
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"Quite" easy for you :D I would have ended up with a Yucky.
Patience, my friend, patience! Es ist noch kein Meister vom Himmel gefallen (no master has fallen from the sky yet), as we say in Germany! :D
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You make the mascot sound easy Jean, but I wonder how much time you spent doing it. I could see you spending several hours just to get this little detail right.
Honestly, such a mascot is designed within 45 minutes, and when the parts are etched, glueing together is made in 5 minutes. Perhaps I shouldn't tell not to destroy my nimbus :lol: , but I really like to encourage everyone to grab tweezers, knives and glue and to start creating, it's really not that difficult :P

Today the louvers and bonnet handles were applied, as well door hinges and chrome strips on the door top edges:

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