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Post by Faustus » Mon Sep 19, 2011 5:58 am

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Faustus wrote:I'm sure I've got an article about making your own resin castings in an old Scale Model Enthusiast. I'll dig that out.
There is another way of making moulds for resin castings, which would definitely work for models that you would like to modify or change slightly. You use the diecast white metal body of the model and make a resin print of that to use as a buck. Modify that in whatever way you need to and then use it to cast production bodies. I've seen it being done.
Of course the other alternatives are to make the buck in wood or metal. I work for a CNC machining company and if I had access to the programming software I might have a play with making something. I'll ask the programmer and see if something can be arranged. The problem is that our CNC mills are huge and are not really suited for this sort of minute detail work.
This was my idea, to use a die cast body with mods as a Buck. But my modelling skills are, at this time, limited. I might try a few practice runs. You are very helpful with advice Faustus. Thanks. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Getting the resin shouldn't be too hard. It would be worth getting a cheap diecast model, as cheap as possible, strip it down to bare metal and then fill a window or an opening or make an extra opening. That can be placed in a container, with some risers or thin spacers so that it doesn't come into contact with the container and then resin poured into the container to make the tooling. The tooling can then be treated with a release agent so that it can be used as tooling for parts.
If I remember correctly, this kind of two-part resin cures at relatively low temperatures but it won't cure at ambient temperatures. You would need an oven to cure it, but you wouldn't want to use a kitchen oven that is used for food, because of contamination.

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Post by Lesopc » Mon Sep 19, 2011 6:27 am

Faustus wrote:
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Faustus wrote:I'm sure I've got an article about making your own resin castings in an old Scale Model Enthusiast. I'll dig that out.
There is another way of making moulds for resin castings, which would definitely work for models that you would like to modify or change slightly. You use the diecast white metal body of the model and make a resin print of that to use as a buck. Modify that in whatever way you need to and then use it to cast production bodies. I've seen it being done.
Of course the other alternatives are to make the buck in wood or metal. I work for a CNC machining company and if I had access to the programming software I might have a play with making something. I'll ask the programmer and see if something can be arranged. The problem is that our CNC mills are huge and are not really suited for this sort of minute detail work.
This was my idea, to use a die cast body with mods as a Buck. But my modelling skills are, at this time, limited. I might try a few practice runs. You are very helpful with advice Faustus. Thanks. 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-) 8-)
Getting the resin shouldn't be too hard. It would be worth getting a cheap diecast model, as cheap as possible, strip it down to bare metal and then fill a window or an opening or make an extra opening. That can be placed in a container, with some risers or thin spacers so that it doesn't come into contact with the container and then resin poured into the container to make the tooling. The tooling can then be treated with a release agent so that it can be used as tooling for parts.
If I remember correctly, this kind of two-part resin cures at relatively low temperatures but it won't cure at ambient temperatures. You would need an oven to cure it, but you wouldn't want to use a kitchen oven that is used for food, because of contamination.
So even this route requires a little spending (spare oven). I fully understand what has been said, first you need a broken up model or wooden replica which has been modified first to the completed/desired profile. Then you need to create e reverse/negative (inside-out) version into which the resin (or other material) can be poured. When this has cured you remove the material of the negative which leaves you with a body shell which just needs minor trimming.
I do however think that making the wheels and tyres will be slightly more tricky as will the interior????
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Post by Lesopc » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:22 am

Just updated the first part of this thread with most of the up to date 2012 information on teams still running as well as all valid information on the Speed World Challenge and South African, French and Italian Supertouring Opels that i have. Enjoy guy's. :) :) :)
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Post by PDS » Mon Oct 29, 2012 8:13 pm

You have missed Eric Helary from the entry of the 1995 World Cup list.

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Post by Lesopc » Tue Oct 30, 2012 7:40 am

PDS wrote:You have missed Eric Helary from the entry of the 1995 World Cup list.
Thanks for that info PDS, i will say however, that this list is a rolling list which will see many updates as i do the research into each series/race. Help like yours though is invaluable to me in compiling the most complete list anywhere of GM (mostly) factory backed touring car type teams. Thanks again mate and please let me know if you find others i've missed. ;) ;) ;)

P.S. I just checked the listing at the top of page and found that he is there on the same line as Alain Cudini because they were in the same team (Opel France). But thanks for checking it over anyway
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Post by PDS » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:01 am

Any reason you haven't listed cars from the DTM?

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Post by Lesopc » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:04 pm

PDS wrote:Any reason you haven't listed cars from the DTM?
I do have a list which i will post shortly but this is almost pointless as i know that most of them were made at one time or another. Keep a look out mate.
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Post by Lesopc » Tue Oct 30, 2012 2:22 pm

The next group up on this wish list are.....

DTM and Nurburgring 24hr moved to top of page 1

During 1993 they used both the Omega and Calibra models and went over to the Calibra for 1994-1996. Almost all of these Opels are widely available as are the cars from 2000-2005 (Astra and Vectra) with only a small number of fairly rare ones. Once again, if you are able to provide information on any gaps then i would like to hear from you.

Found the German wikipedia entry. It appears that the only Opel for 1992 was Volker Strycek's Omega for round 6 but he failed to start either of the 2 races that meeting.
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Post by Lesopc » Wed Oct 31, 2012 1:31 pm

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PDS wrote:Any reason you haven't listed cars from the DTM?
I do have a list which i will post shortly but this is almost pointless as i know that most of them were made at one time or another. Keep a look out mate.
The DTM list is now complete....enjoy. :D :D :D
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Post by Lesopc » Fri Nov 02, 2012 9:36 am

Just updated the South American (SudAm) Touring Car Championship section at the top of this thread with information found on the Spanish Wikipedia. It appears that some of the drivers previously listed in some of the years are not mentioned at all and have therefore been removed for now until i find more details on them. I am looking into the INI Competicion team but am aware of other teams (privateers), however this is the closest to a factory team (Chevrolet). If i have missed anything then please feel free to let me know as information is scarce as are photos of most of the cars. I have seen both of the 1997 cars and also Guerra's 1998 car too (made by Onyx). Enjoy.
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Post by PDS » Fri Nov 02, 2012 1:20 pm

Lesopc wrote:
Lesopc wrote:
PDS wrote:Any reason you haven't listed cars from the DTM?
I do have a list which i will post shortly but this is almost pointless as i know that most of them were made at one time or another. Keep a look out mate.
The DTM list is now complete....enjoy. :D :D :D
So ALL those listed are WORKS entries???

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Post by Lesopc » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:41 pm

PDS wrote:
Lesopc wrote:
Lesopc wrote:
PDS wrote:Any reason you haven't listed cars from the DTM?
I do have a list which i will post shortly but this is almost pointless as i know that most of them were made at one time or another. Keep a look out mate.
The DTM list is now complete....enjoy. :D :D :D
So ALL those listed are WORKS entries???
As far as i can establish PDS, these are all WORKS entries for the years mentioned. Unlike over here (BTCC etc), the Opel brand liked to allow sometimes more than one actual team to run cars (eg Joest and Rosberg or Phoenix and Holzer etc) but they were all part of the factory programme. Please feel free to correct me if i have made an error in this. Also feel free to advise me on any cars/drivers i might have missed.

As i also said before, most of these are available from Minichamps line up and are widely available or will be soon. I look forward to filling this part of my collection and who knows, Opel may yet return to the DTM in the coming seasons (Insignia RWD V8 DTM anyone???). This thread was started to show my knowledge of GM in this field of motorsport and what i hope will one day grace my cabinet but has not already been made available.
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Post by Lesopc » Fri Nov 02, 2012 2:47 pm

Lesopc wrote:
Lesopc wrote:
PDS wrote:Any reason you haven't listed cars from the DTM?
I do have a list which i will post shortly but this is almost pointless as i know that most of them were made at one time or another. Keep a look out mate.
The DTM list is now complete....enjoy. :D :D :D
Just realised that i have already posted a smaller DTM list on page 2. :oops: :oops: :oops:
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Post by Lesopc » Sat Nov 03, 2012 9:00 am

Just waiting for Nov 18 and the end of the Nascar season to select the highest ranked GM brand driver for the list. Looking pretty much like it'll be Jimmie Johnson in the ~48 Lowes car again but it isn't over yet.
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Post by Lesopc » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:09 pm

Lesopc wrote:Just waiting for Nov 18 and the end of the Nascar season to select the highest ranked GM brand driver for the list. Looking pretty much like it'll be Jimmie Johnson in the #48 Lowes car again but it isn't over yet.
I was spot on....see list on page one.
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Post by Lesopc » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:44 am

Just updated the list at the top of page 1 of this post. I have now removed the John Cleland '89 Astra and '92 Cavalier as i now have 1 a piece of the Vanguards models. These could both be a little better but at least they are now represented. Just a shame Corgi didn't do the teammate cars for both these years (as at the top of my list under BTCC).
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Post by TouringCarExclusives » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:07 am

That is quite some list!!

I would like most of those (BTCC) you have listed, keep an eye out though as i should have another one of those on your list finished next week and another one being built 8-)

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Post by Lesopc » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:03 pm

JasonPotato wrote:That is quite some list!!

I would like most of those (BTCC) you have listed, keep an eye out though as i should have another one of those on your list finished next week and another one being built 8-)
As you can tell they are all GM as i am a big fan, hence my comments/queries on your post.
That is great news mate and good luck to you, I'll be sure to take a look when they are ready. However they will not feature in my own GM based collection due to not being able to get the graphics. :( :( :(
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Post by TouringCarExclusives » Tue Jun 11, 2013 12:53 pm

Why GM in particular? Do you work there or just have a passion for there racing cars?

If i was to collect one make/maker of car it would have to be Mercedes or BMW.

I will be keeping a close eye on your thread.

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Post by Lesopc » Tue Jun 11, 2013 1:14 pm

JasonPotato wrote:Why GM in particular? Do you work there or just have a passion for there racing cars?

If i was to collect one make/maker of car it would have to be Mercedes or BMW.

I will be keeping a close eye on your thread.
When i was a kid, i loved Ford. This ended when i was a teen and i noticed how all the "Lads" had Escorts and Fiestas modded to high heaven. I thought then i would be a little more conservative and went with BL/Rover but soon saw the poor quality of manufacture of most of them. In the late '90's i was introduced to the touring car scene by a friend but could not settle to any one make. When MG launch it's ZS touring car in the 00's, i tried to get some promo posters from WSR and from MG directly but neither responded to my request so i lost liking of them. I then noticed (around 2002/3) how many brands GM owns and how very many cars they had raced over the years, particularly in touring car type championships. I sent mail all over the world and was sent lots of postcards/posters of the teams. I then settled with GM as my choice to support. In 2005 i passed my driving test and have now owned 4 Vauxhalls (Astra mk3, Vectra mk1, Vectra mk2 and Omega mk2).
I hope this explains. Thanks for the interest.
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Post by Lesopc » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:24 pm

I may have found a guy to do some decal sets for me. Now some of my projects can become a reality. I'll keep you all informed. :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by thetrooper » Sat Jun 29, 2013 11:58 am

That sounds promising and I look forward to seeing how they progress.
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Post by vx1054 » Tue Jul 02, 2013 11:58 am

Les,

Thought of a few more to add to the list that I know of:

1982 Tourist Trophy - Opel Monza - Lanfranchi/Cleland - Found Photo
1983 Tourist Trophy - Opel Monza - Lanfranchi/Cleland - Found Photo

1983 BSCC (BTCC) Opel Monza - Tony Lanfranchi - Found photo

1986 BSCC (BTCC) Vauxhall Nova - Tony Lanfranchi - Class D Winner - Never seen photo

I will try and post the pics I have at some point.
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Post by Lesopc » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:17 am

vx1054 wrote:Les,

Thought of a few more to add to the list that I know of:

1982 Tourist Trophy - Opel Monza - Lanfranchi/Cleland - Found Photo
1983 Tourist Trophy - Opel Monza - Lanfranchi/Cleland - Found Photo

1983 BSCC (BTCC) Opel Monza - Tony Lanfranchi - Found photo

1986 BSCC (BTCC) Vauxhall Nova - Tony Lanfranchi - Class D Winner - Never seen photo

I will try and post the pics I have at some point.
I will be sure to add these to my list mate. I have also found a couple more too from 1981 and 1984 (Not too sure what championship the '84 cars were in though). Keep watching the top of this post.
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